Unemployment benefits- Whats FAIR to Taxpayers?

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What do you think of the idea of requiring recipients of unemployment benefits (beyond a perdetermined date, like say- the old deadline) to agree to reimburse the taxpayers when they secure employment?
With the recent debate & outrage over extending unemployment benefits in these difficult economic times, what can we do to better balance the hardships of the unemployed with fairness to the overburdened American taxpayer while giving deadbeats an incentive to start looking for work in earnest much sooner than 6 weeks or so before they are set to be kicked of the public dole?

Put the IRS & state agencies to good use by requiring these people to forfeit future income tax returns, payroll deductions and pay increased taxes on property and any transactions from which they make a profit until they have paid back what they received.

Many states including Georgia have enacted legislation that would require Medicaid recipients who receive long term care to reimburse the taxpayers if their estates have a net value of at least $25,000 at the time of their deaths. Many people argue that this is unfair because heirs would be denied their inhereitance. There are cries that senior citizens would have to choose between leaving a home to their offspring and prolonging their lives.

If we can require Seniors who sacrificed & paid their dues during the Depression, two World Wars, Vietnam & Korea to give up the fruit of their life's work for treatment so they can stay above ground a little longer, why can't we demand the same of a 25 year old who has benefitted all of his/hr life from growing up in the most affluent society on earth?

Let's put it this way: What would you say if you just got another job (lower paying than your last one, of course)and was trying to catch up on everything that you owed on (house, car, school loans, and doctor bills) and Mr. government Man knocked at the door wanting his toll for helping you out. REMEMBER that you may have been one of those people that has worked for MANY years, paying into the retirement and unemployment funds of your company, then you got CANNED. NOW what would you say to that???

whats fair to taxpayers.. is to take back our gov. from the globalists.. close the fed reserve once and for all.. stop the owing more in interest than we can pay back.. tearany is what it is.. financial slavery.. ok.. stop voting for change that is not defined.. stop voting for someone just cos they got the advertising dollar of the european bankers.. bring back work from china.. stop the illegal aliens from having fake ids and such and collecting food stamps and cash aid when they are not even legal.. if you have a child here.. they are not american. if the parents are not.. there are so many problems.. but you people dont seem to get it.. you voted for this child.. now deal with it..lol... all they want is you socialized up.. this was all done on purpose.. do your homework.. its all there online... ck out.. infowars.com.. or alex jones.com.. and you will learn many truths.. i say.. close the fed res. tell opec to phuck off.. and reopen the other half of alaska.. take back jobs from china.. build a electric wall between us and mexico.. get the hell out of iraq and the rest of the world. that we dont care about anyway.. but use the money to stop meth in america.. we have our own problems.. instead.. they want you socialized up.. they want a war that can not be ended.. always needing more from the fed res to finance it.. and bankrupting you ... you people voted in a globalist puppet of the illuminati.. the european bankers.. until you at least admit to what has happened.. you cant fix it.. if you want to save waltons mtn for your kids.. in cali there is only one way.. to sell it to them for fair market value.. well its never been lower.. sell it to them for a low fair price.. and you just live in it.. that way the gov cant steal your house. the way they stole everything else.. like your jobs and money.. you are trapped in tearany.. and dont even see it.. we must close the fed res, stop the wars.. and look to fix homeland.. when we were on domestic oil.. and not feeding off chinas crap.. we were doing just fine.. now there is no money.. no jobs, no anything but the rich getting richer.. a division not from white to black or mexican to chinese or whatever.. but a division from rich to poor.. and we are mostly all the poor... wake up america. do your homework before you vote.. every one of you that voted for bush or obama is at blame for this.. they have controlled our gov since day one... look up the north american alliance... nafta agreement.. we dont even have america anymore.. look forward to the amero dollar.. and full socialization.. you voted for it.. now you got it. as long as the fed res. is open.. you will suffer.. and now they are taking the last moneys they can.. for stem cell and weapons.. and to stockpile in while we are left out... wake up america. course it dont mater.. its to late anyway thanks to bush signing off the nafta agreement.......the advertising dollar works.. and they and hollyvierd know this.. they control everything.. all but 2 administrations are globalists.. and quoted as such on the net.. most wont see it until they are marshal lawing us.. and you cant find food... they are now cutting off the water to your food supply .. all done in the name of environmentalism.. we are the only animal they dont care about.. and they are proud of what they are doing.. look at the comments now coming out. look at the smirks.. look at the cant say anything... so they say.. stay the course.. to bad its their course and not ours.. do your homework america.. and stockpile everything you can now before you cant get supplies.. i have 2 yrs worth of everything.. food to toilet paper.. i suggest you all do the same.. what they are doing here.. is taking your land.. cos its the one thing that can help you l8ter.. they want socialization.. not freedom.. they will bankrupt us all they can.. and control everything in the end.. remember the golden rule..he with the most gold makes the rules.. lol... and he with the most advertising dollars.. will be in the white house... so sad.. to see first black pres. could have done something great.. but he is just a bought off puppet of the illuminati.. instead.. how sad is that.. i say... stop the tearany.. close the fed res. stop the non ending war... use that money to pay for our medical and to stop meth.. bring back work from china... close the borders.. and if you have a kid here.. he is not american.. unless the parents are.. ok.. this will start the healing process.. the way its going now.. people vote without knowing anything.. and then look what happens.. lol.. it was all set up long ago.. look up prescot bush.. ya granddaddy bush.. he sat of founding board of fed res.. these people been rolling on america since day one.. remember. it was the european lawyers that wrote the independence documents.. taking america back then while lieing to us saying it was ours.. what a joke.. they control.. the govs.. moneys. food, water, laws, corporations.. everything.. first they did was outlaw a monopoly.. as they set one up on all of us.. open your eyes america.. get online... do your homework.. you will see everything i have said is true.. dont worry about the small stuff like happy camper here.. but try to get a real pres. for america.. not euopean bankers.. and find a balance of us and the environment.. not just we need to all go wayside cos of green whatever.. we are the top animal.. yet treated like the least by our gov... dont admit to anyone if you have a endangered critter seen on your land whatever you do.. lol... i have found a way to save my land for kids... you can to .. but you need to know whats going on.. and why.. i use my union benefits for med... and if i die early and it helps the kids more.... isnt that what it is all about anyway... all for our downline not selfishness or self.. most are way to selfish or stupid to even see what is going on.. stop voting for globalists.. do your homework.. and things would be better.. in the meantime.. enjoy the 98th state of the british empire... lol.. obama promises change. to bad none of you realized socialization was the change..lol... obama will go down in history as a failure.... he didnt do much on that gulf leak.. i would have told bp to screw off.. focus on clean up.. wile i sent the army core of engineers down there to stop it after first week of bps failure.. obama didnt seem to care.. even when thats where most the votes came from to put him in office.. bush no better on Katrina.. they dont work for us.. but for another plan.. wake up america. and see what has happened.. get ready for the amero dollar... and the north america alliance.. you voted for it.. without even looking or caring.. on the issues.. stop voting for the advertising dollar man.. and vote for idea man instead.. but now its to late.. lol......again.. ow chet.. happy camper.. you dont seem to happy now.. i wondering who you voted for.. and why.. before we had unions.. and med benefits.. and money to spare.. and cheap gas.. now the beehive is frozen up.. no affordable gas.. no jobs to find, no ambition to start own companies.. just looking for more handouts.. just like the globalists want you to do.. and ya its a shame we worked so hard to build america to what it was just to see it all raped by generation of disrespect.. and the gov....but we dont own the gov.. they do.. and its for selfishness.. not america they play for. ok.. its not to get in power or money.. but to stay in it that counts.. and they doing a great job for what they want.. they dont care about us.. they want us to die and go away... do your homework.. and you will see i am true in what i am saying.. and lots are waking up to the truth every day.. but if you want to save your farm for your kids.. email me. i will tell you how.. @->-daisyhubs.

dont you think the gov knew that if you are not a industrial country you wont make it unless you are the worlds think tank... of course they did.. you see.. its just more proof.. when they knowingly gave to much to china of our work.. they knew dam well that there would be no work in americia.. sick, canned, whatever.. as people retired. they are not replaced.. cos they been there to long. hey make to much.(the pay of 2 men or more now). so they need to go anyway to save salary for one man.. and give boss raise of one more mans worth.. and ones worth to hire a new apprentice.. and they dont care that the kids are incompetent most of them.. they will just take greedily from the co.. as everyone else has extra work and has to give more.. or a older competent masterful worker in his craft or trade is sent out to pasture early.. its about greed.. the day you get ahead is the day you work for yourself and not others..what a bad situation.. to be canned after so many yrs.. and find there are no jobs out there..but they knew this.. its all part of your socialization.. or can america bring back ingenuity and pride and start own companies and such.. getting away from giant corps and the gov more and more.. i rather pay the 2 dollars union.. than pay the 99cents and china is using most of it for their war machine..building up..the unions did get a tad costly... and all but we had good benefits.. now we got greed and china building up as we are loosing more and more jobs and benefits..you cant take the work out of a country and expect things to be ok.. not everyone is going to be ok.. but only the greedy rich in time... as they smirk at us.. and believe the lie that they are better than someone else.. and its ok, just the way things are.. and glad to be rich is how they think... truth is they are thief's.. greedy and selfish its a wrong system when one has to fail for another to succeed... the ship will sink in time.. and it is.. to bad there is no lifeboat for all of us.. in the past with work here.. if you were unemployed you need not be for long.. jobs were so easy to find.. but when all work is overseas.. now what...and inflation is rolling on... a division, from rich to poor... as they laugh at us..they dont care about anyone but self.. not even their own countries future or their own kids.. in cali.. the lawmakers keep telling us we are so so so broke.. and cutting everything.. as they voted themselves a raise.. come on now.. actions speak louder than words there.. and they already making so much.. how screwed is that... and they finally decide they cant decide on anything but their raise.. talk about undeserving.. dam..but of course they are better than you or i.. cos they are lawyers and lawmakers after all.. what a bunch of liars and crooks... as the state falls to meth and bankruptcy even more and more.. how phucked is that.. start a company doing something china doesnt do in your area... leave it to your kids.. let them buy your house cheap.. and you live in it .. doesnt anyone remember waltons mtn.. it worked.. all the division doesnt..i dont trust anyone but myself.. and for good reason.. respect is earned. not granted,, the gov and the companies dont respect us.. and never will.. start your own company.. and your own way.. then when chet hits the fan some.. you will not be at mercy of others... @->-daisyhubs.

I am currently unemployed and what they give me in benefits doesn't equal to what they took out in taxes. So the way I look at it is that they are giving me some of my money back.

Slash taxes, slash regulations, and get out of the way...we will rise again.

K im not american so never looked into nafta from your point of view but from a western canadian point of view it seems to benifit the states for example the states are allowed to take our water for free some lakes in my province are down over 20 feet of water due to it and yet we arent allowed to charge 1 cent for it lol not trying to argue just want to know how it effects you

unempolyment benifits came out of the great depression as a way to
A. help the employed survive the poor decisions of corporate boards and wall street
B. to keep the cash flow going through the ecomony, when people stop buying goods and services companies cut back to keep "profit margins" up and what goes?? The worker = people = consumer = the one buying the goods and services to begin with.......




even then it took a world war to pull America out the depression. The ultimate demostration of a ecomony based on consumerism.....
(once you use a bullet you have to go out and buy another one)

I'm for capitalism and free enterprise but greed does need to be kept in check as by its very nature it unable to do so by itself as demostrated by all the Mandoffs of wall street, along with the IAG exec types and those "creative" mortage lenders and the rest that get ridiculous "bonuses" for making poor decisions based on short sighted quarter profits mentality.............

MAY I ADD MY SUPPORT TO MY BROTHER HUBS WORDS OF WISDOM !

BUY AMERICAN !
SELL AMERICAN !

MAKE THE MANUFACTURES PRODUCE QUALITY GOODS AT FAIR PRICES !
IF AMERICA CANT MAKE IT !
AMERICA DONT NEED IT !

START THE WAR CRY HERE !

BUY AMERICAN !
KEEP THE JOBS AT HOME !
THE JOBS U CREATE MAY BE YOUR KIDS !
THE JOB U SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN !

God Bless America
Billy
Dublin Ireland

MAY I ADD MY SUPPORT TO MY BROTHER HUBS WORDS OF WISDOM !

BUY AMERICAN !
SELL AMERICAN !

MAKE THE MANUFACTURES PRODUCE QUALITY GOODS AT FAIR PRICES !
IF AMERICA CANT MAKE IT !
AMERICA DONT NEED IT !

START THE WAR CRY HERE !

BUY AMERICAN !
KEEP THE JOBS AT HOME !
THE JOBS U CREATE MAY BE YOUR KIDS !
THE JOB U SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN !

God Bless America
Billy
Dublin Ireland

In regards to Unemployment benefits;
Here in Florida, employer's pay into Florida's unemployment-compensation trust fund. Since benefits are being extended(by congress) this fund is now broke and the trust fund is having to borrow money which will then be paid by employers at a higher rate in order to build up the fund. So expect higher prices on goods since this cost is carried on to the consumer.

HELABA!
and is it fair that banks get a big load of money from the state (read: the taxpayer) to pay off the consequences of simple stupid greed only to pay premiums to their managers just some months later?
What system are living in "on the other side of the big pond"...