Why didnt this make national news and wju is the naacp for this kid. A 13-year-old boy who police say was doused with gasoline and lit on fire last week while walking home from school is recovering from first-degree burns to his face and head.
The boy was just two blocks from his home in Kansas City Tuesday when two teenagers began to follow him and then attacked him, his mother, Melissa Coon, said.
Police have described the suspects as black 16-year-olds, while the victim is white.
"We were told it's a hate crime," Coon told KTLA.
"They rushed him on the porch as he tried to get the door open," Coon told KMBC. "(One of them) poured the gasoline, then flicked the Bic, and said, 'This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy.'"
By lighting the gasoline, the second attacker "produced a large fireball burning the face and hair" of the boy, according to a Kansas City Police Department report obtained by KCTV.
"It was pretty bad stuff," Detective Stacey Taylor told the TV station, adding that police are concerned the boy may have suffered damage to his eyes and lungs.
Coon said her son put out the fire with his shirt and called 911 himself. He was rushed to the hospital and was treated for his injuries.
She believes the students also attend East High School with her son, and said he will not be returning to the school. She also told KMBC her traumatized family plans now plans to move.
"My 5-year-old came in and asked me, 'Mom, am I going to get set on fire today?'" Coon said. "I was in tears."
Hopefully the police and prosecutors will press on to identify those punks and lock em up with some hard time. I see no excuse for behavior like that from anyone, no matter what color either the victims or the perpetrators are. There are animals running around who need to be separated from civilized society. We all would be better off.
Sure it is sad. So is the fact that 87% of all inmates in the US prison system are Black. It is sad that there are quotas set so Blacks cannot be deprived of jobs, houses and such. It is sad that Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton sticks their nose in places they have no business.
Now consider that Blacks on account for 17% of the total US population.
I am not a racist but one that is court every day and sees what is going on in the Judicial system. Both my wife and I have enjoyed the company of Blacks in our beds. Many are hard working, decent people that are self supporting. Many more live off the system.
Well, considering how your authorities handled the Zimmerman case BEFORE it came to public attention, I'm not at all surprised that 87% of all inmates in U.S. jails are Black. I certainly wouldn't want to get into conflict with the law in your parts of the world and be black...
Not sure if you realize, but the vast majority of Europeans consider great parts of American society to be racist...and there's 750 Million people that live in Europe in 50 different countries! I wonder why...
The Zimmerman case is a non issue. He should not have been arrested. The charges against him will not hold and the only reason he was charged is to keep Blacks from running wild in the streets. Even the District Attorney would not bring charges. They brought in a Special Prosecutor and she trumped up charges that will not fly. Look for the Judge to dismiss them.
The US is the only country that has as many on welfare as we do. The US is the only country to have the Black issues we do.
Our politicians buy the Black vote with free housing, government checks and food. That is not enough for them so they commit crimes to get what they want.
Take away the drug dealers, the Black on Black crime and our murder rates are less than any country.
Again, there are a lot of hard working, decent, God fearing Blacks in the US. Unfortunately there are many more that want an easy road to instant gratification.
Only those in the Judicial system can understand what I am talking about.
By boardhubby on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 9:45 pm |
Yes there are a very very small amount that are hard working law abiding people but lets call a spade a spade no disrespect to anyone but they are far and few most of them stand there with there hand out getting what they can for free I have my own business and I see it every day
Ahhhhh, I am slowly starting to understand! Its all about the Zimmerman case, isn't it...
"He should not have been arrested"???
You and I are obviously living in parallel universes. Apart from the question of what someone might think about the concept of gun-swinging amateur sheriffs roaming the streets -something utterly inconceivable in my parts of the world- here in Europe if you shoot someone, its actually very simple: you get arrested! It doesn't matter if because of a hunting accident or in self defense. You have terminated the life of a human being and till everything gets sorted out, you will wait in jail. And I'm not even talking about killing an unarmed citizen. I wonder how you would feel if under exactly the same circumstances a guy like Zimmerman would have shot your own son...
Also, you seem to be implying that the judicial system is biased towards the black community. That seems to be pretty far fetched, to put it mildly. I mean, I cannot imagine a single white American, who -rightly or wrongfully accused- would (theoretically obviously) opt to be standing in court as a black person, expecting a more favorable treatment! Now someone might proudly insist that justice is the same for everyone and I could only give this noble person the benefit of the doubt, but I am one hundred million percent sure, that this person's lawyer will strongly disagree...
You say "the US is the country with most people living on welfare"...not sure if we here in Europe are so ignorant, but from what I gather, there are 30 million people without health insurance. We here are under the impression, that many hospitals in your parts of the world will refuse to treat you if you're not insured...even if you're a complete mess from say being in a car accident. So what welfare are you talking about? Here health insurance for all is considered to be one of the biggest and most "sacred" achievements of modern society. I mean, its ok to spend billions of tax money on weapons, but health care is a taboo? As I said, parallel universes...
Your politicians buy the Black vote with free housing, government checks and food? THAT'S your issue? Ever thought about the fact that they spend infinitely more buying the votes (the funding actually) of the weapons industry? Or the oil industry? Or the financial services industry? Or creeping up Israel's ass for the Jewish vote? But I guess that's something completely different now, isn't it...
"The least murder rates of all countries without "Black crime"???" With some shooting spree at a college or mall happening like every month??? VERY unlikely!
And other than that, you consider yourself not to be racist???
Let me give you a little impulse to think a bit. American casualties in the Iraq war up to date amount to about 4.500 dead, the vast majority combat troops. In exactly the same time there have been about 120.000 CIVILIAN casualties among the local population (and that's the official count...some say the number is much higher). In other words, that's mainly women and children blown to bits, burnt beyond recognition...and I'm not even talking about the injured and handicapped. Now does that mean that Americans are bloodthirsty slaughterers, inhumane and ruthless murderers? Obviously it would -at least in my opinion- be very simplistic to sustain this.
But then again, you probably will say what one thing has to do with the other...
By dirtycpl93 on Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 4:58 am |
Several ways to see this issue.
If u r from another country, it would b very hard to understand the situation here in the USA.
If u never lived in an urban lower income area and gotten to know the people, would b tough to understand. At the same time ,if u understand the issue and your not black u may b called a racist.
45master u see the issue through the courts and ur opinion is spot on , hard to argue with those #s. Our problem has to do with welfare and the system of hand outs that create an attitude of entitlement in those depressed communities, reguardless of that communities ethnic makeup.There r people who need help , but now we have a lower income group demanding expecting help and that is a difficult situation to turn around for some reason (political/the media is not helping either).I also have my own business and understand from that point of view too boardhub ,I try to get people from my old hood to work but almost never turns out well.
Entitlement kills ambition in most people.
Its more about classes of people than color/ethnicity.
The young folks do not care about your skin color, they care about good decent people. I won't get started about the rest of the world and its issues, I don't see many places that should b pointing fingers. Everybody still wants to come here first. Land of the Free!
We have come a long way in this country and we will continue to get better.
<<< Its all about the Zimmerman case, isn't it...
"He should not have been arrested"???>>
Nope, the Zimmerman case only brought to light what is going on in a public way.
<<< Apart from the question of what someone might think about the concept of gun-swinging amateur sheriffs roaming the streets -something utterly inconceivable in my parts of the world- here in Europe if you shoot someone, its actually very simple: you get arrested! It doesn't matter if because of a hunting accident or in self defense. You have terminated the life of a human being and till everything gets sorted out, you will wait in jail.>>>
Yes and you do not have the right to self defense, the only ones in your country with guns are the criminals and home invasions are a lot more abundant there. Your government can do as they want and the citizens are unable to defend themselves against other government invasions, takeover from their own government and cannot vote for those they want to rule the country. As to unarmed sheriffs, those owning and carrying weapons in the US prevented over 3 million crimes last year. I am in law enforcement and fully support the reight to own and bear arms.
<<< And I'm not even talking about killing an unarmed citizen. I wonder how you would feel if under exactly the same circumstances a guy like Zimmerman would have shot your own son..>>>
Under the facts of the Zimmerman case, I would offer a sincere apology to the shooter for my son's actions. But then I do not depend on media perceptions to know the facts of the case. I look at the legal aspects and witness statements as well as medical evidence.
<<<you seem to be implying that the judicial system is biased towards the black community. That seems to be pretty far fetched, to put it mildly. I mean, I cannot imagine a single white American, who -rightly or wrongfully accused- would (theoretically obviously) opt to be standing in court as a black person, expecting a more favorable treatment! Now someone might proudly insist that justice is the same for everyone and I could only give this noble person the benefit of the doubt, but I am one hundred million percent sure, that this person's lawyer will strongly disagree.>>>
That is because you do not live here. If Zimmerman walks, assuming he is innocent, there will be Black rioting over the US. We are already seeing it happening. Study the Rodney King riots and see what was done. The Blacks destroyed millions of dollars in property, stole millions of dollars in merchandise and hurt many people physically becuase a Black thug was beat by police trying to take him into custody as he fought them following a high speed chase for miles that endanagered a lot ofpeople.
Then we had the Cedar Grove riots in Louisiana. A lot of looting, a lot of homes set on fire and they all were Black. A white woman shot a Black man in a drug deal that went bad and there were two days of rioting which was just another word for giving them an excuse to loot and burn.
<<<You say "the US is the country with most people living on welfare"...not sure if we here in Europe are so ignorant, but from what I gather, there are 30 million people without health insurance. We here are under the impression, that many hospitals in your parts of the world will refuse to treat you if you're not insured...even if you're a complete mess from say being in a car accident.>>>
Pure bullshit from someone that does not know what they are talking about. Doctors, hospitals and such, BY LAW, has to treat the sick or injured, no matter if they can pay of not. Over 60% of all medical charges are never paid. The people know this and they do not buy insurance to cover their medical charges since why should they? They get free medical care. Then we also have State hospitals or "Charity" hospitals that treat anyone for any reason. We also have nursing homes that house people without the ability to pay. Again, you are getting your information from the news media and they want people to think exactly as they report, wich is inaccurate to be gin with.
<<So what welfare are you talking about?>>>
If one does not work, the "welfare system" pays their rent, buys their food and gives them a monthly check. With each new child, their check goes up. Many single mothers with children are getting $5000+ in monthly benefits, all at the working taxpayer expense.
<<Your politicians buy the Black vote with free housing, government checks and food? THAT'S your issue? Ever thought about the fact that they spend infinitely more buying the votes (the funding actually) of the weapons industry? Or the oil industry? Or the financial services industry? Or creeping up Israel's ass for the Jewish vote? But I guess that's something completely different now, isn't it... >>>
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. We have more oil in the US than any other country. Our fuel is cheaper than any other country. We won WWII because we had the fuel to run vehicles and could supply England and France with it as the enemies ran out of fuel to be able to push forward.
You need to study more.
"The least murder rates of all countries without "Black crime"???" With some shooting spree at a college or mall happening like every month??? VERY unlikely!
And other than that, you consider yourself not to be racist???
Let me give you a little impulse to think a bit. American casualties in the Iraq war up to date amount to about 4.500 dead, the vast majority combat troops. In exactly the same time there have been about 120.000 CIVILIAN casualties among the local population (and that's the official count...some say the number is much higher). In other words, that's mainly women and children blown to bits, burnt beyond recognition...and I'm not even talking about the injured and handicapped. Now does that mean that Americans are bloodthirsty slaughterers, inhumane and ruthless murderers? Obviously it would -at least in my opinion- be very simplistic to sustain this.
But then again, you probably will say what one thing has to do with the other...
Your last paragraphs were included by accident and they are as flawed as the rest of your posting. Sorry about that, I am usually more efficient than that.
Lets assume I go into your home and kill your family. Do you come after me? If you have to kill others to get to me, does it matter?
How many civilians were killed when England was attacked in WWII? How many were killed on 9-11? How many were killed at Pearl Harbor?
I have some news for you. War is hell and it does not only kill soldiers. When a terrorist country is attacking others, then that country can expect casualties.
A lot of civilians were killed when we bombed Japan but it stopped millions more from being killed in war.
Not knowing you, but I bet you never served in any military branch and never wroked in law enforcement and never testified in a criminal court case.
Again, you are stating liberal beliefs gained from liberal medias and not confirmed. Countries harbor terrorists as was shown in Pakistan. Getting to them means loss of life.
Wow, you surely have a simplistic view of the world and what's happening around you, I have to say!
"War is hell and it does not only kill soldiers. When a terrorist country is attacking others, then that country can expect casualties." ???? I did not mention Iraq by chance, I mentioned it because a couple of hundred thousand people died, because astronomical sums of your taxpayers money were spent on weapons and because after ten years all the cards are now out on the table. With cards on the table, I mean that it is clear that all of this was for nothing and absolutely nothing! When did Iraq ever attack the US? Was there a single terrorist ever rounded up there? Not that I have ever heard of. Have you forgotten that the reason for hundreds of thousands of dead and dismembered was that there were tons of weapons of mass destruction ready to be used in Iraq? Well everybody knows today that that was plain bullshit, because not even a water pistol was found! Ouuups sorry, we made a mistake...a couple of hundred thousands got killed in the process, but hey, •••• happens...is that what you are trying to say? I mean nobody talks about the Iraqi dead anyhow, but what do you actually say to an American mother who has lost her son. That he served his country and did his patriotic duty? Yes, he did...because he was ordered to go there. But for WHAT??? What was actually achieved in practical concrete terms? Just created more hatred and thirst for revenge the way I see it. Doesn't have anything to do with being liberal or not...its just a fact! "Don't do to others what you wouldn't want others to do to you", is a value that I personally subscribe to. But to you a couple of hundred thousand innocent people -mainly women and children- killed for no reason whatsoever is justified just like that without thinking twice? That's pretty obscene, I think and I wonder how you reconcile this attitude with your Christian religion? Actually sounds more close to the Muslim religion, if you ask me. That's where the "famous" notion of "an eye for an eye" comes from, if you didn't know. Interesting you mention Pakistan, which from what it looks like seems indeed to be a place with a lot of radical fundamental potential. Paradoxically for the last 30 years the US has been the principal supplier of armaments over there, do you realize that? What I am trying to say is that I just wouldn’t take at face value the stuff that politicians and their cronies of the press serve you all the time…
And all this crap about WWII...that's history, my friend, don't you think? What does the geopolitical situation of the 30s and 40s have to do with today's reality. I mean, there has been tv, computers, worldwide communication and trade, air travel and global freedom of movement in the meantime! You guys (or many of you) practically go crazy for Japanese and German products nowadays. Novitzki is a star in the NBA! Germany and France, that have fought dozens of wars for 600 years are now closest allies...What on earth are you talking about???
You are right, by the way, I have never served in any military branch, which actually is obligatory, where I come from. But having a permanent residence in another country, I was exempted. Let me put it this way: I have lived in many countries in my life, I speak many languages, have very good and interesting friends all over the world, live by the sea in a nice little isolated house with my animals, have a wonderful interesting job, get to travel a lot and -with all due respect to each and everyone's choices- I cannot possibly imagine how a military career could in any way have enriched my life or given me any valuable impulses. I have lived in a war zone for two years, however, which you obviously have not! Have been shelled many times not knowing if me and my family would ever see the light of day again, have been shot at from out of the blue on a couple of occasions -just walking my dog in the peaceful countryside-, had my English teacher's leg ripped off from a stray shell, saw stray dogs in the streets tearing out the intestines from rotting stinking corpses...not a nice sight, I assure you! Testified in criminal court cases? 163 times...yep, I actually counted it. Main witness in one of the biggest money laundering affairs over here. Testifying against the mob, politicians, journalists, you name it! I’ve been to court so many times, I talk to some of the prosecutors by first name and I know the judicial system better than my own garden (at least the local one here). So, if you ever need some humble advice in a criminal or indeed civil procedure, I'm your man...
That gets me to your assessment of the crime and security situation in my part of the world. What ever makes you think that home invasions are abundant over here? Trying to think really hard now, if I ever personally heard about some break in and I just can't...wait, I just remembered one case of a friend of mine a couple of years ago. Her house got emptied while she was on vacation. Doesn't happen very often over here though. Not a single shooting spree ever! You can actually walk in any part of the city –and it’s a big city- 24 hours a day...even as a woman alone and nothing will happen! If I look at the crime statistics, then a tiny fraction of the crime you have over the Atlantic happens over here...and without people being allowed to carry guns or armies of amateur sheriffs. In other words, the problem lies somewhere completely different as any logically thinking person would conclude. The most ludicrous argument, however is the one about defending yourself against foreign invasions and indeed your own...government(???!!!). I think you watch too many science fiction films. I mean, who the fuck is going to invade the US with the strongest, most powerful and technologically advanced army in the world??? And if one would even theoretically imagine such a scenario, you think that by unpacking your pistols and shotguns you are going to stop anyone??? Man, don't you actually have to laugh thinking of such a scene? Is this the kind of crap the weapons lobbies feed you over there? Don't they teach you how to think on your own at school? I mean, if you told me its just a tradition over here that is deeply rooted, kind of like the "crazy" Germans that insist on being the only country in the world to have no speed limits on their highways (yes, you can actually go as fast as you want over there), then that would make more sense, but foreign invasions????!!!! And by the way, over here -just like in the US- there are free elections every four years. I can vote for anyone I like and I have plenty of choices. I can even decide to be a candidate myself, if I want...I mean, what do you think...that we live behind the moon? Did you know that "Democracy" is actually a Greek word? That's because they "invented" this form of governing some 2000 years ago. Translated it means -quite fittingly- "citizen government"...
You ask me what I would do if someone got into my home and killed my family. I’m actually not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean what I would do in the house itself while something like this is taking place? Well, that’s a very hypothetical scenario over here, because this just doesn’t happen. Statistically its about the same chance as being hit by a falling meteorite or something like that. I mean you read every once in a while that houses get robbed with the people inside, but people murdered in the process, that’s unheard of. On the other hand, do you mean if I would go after the perpetrators AFTER something like this would have happened (again very theoretically). Well, frankly I don’t know how I would react. I mean, it’s a fact that (apart from some rural societies in very isolated places of the world that still de facto have blood vengeance) 99,99 % of societies all over the world rely on their judicial systems when it comes to capital crime. Its also a fact that I personally do not support the idea of anarchically organized societies which would be the case if everyone just took justice in his own hands, but having said that, I think it is very difficult to anticipate someone’s reaction in such a situation of extreme stress and emotion. But again, I have to argue: I personally am not particularly religious, but how on earth does someone who sustains to be of Christian faith reconcile taking another person’s life in ANY type of circumstance? I mean, doesn’t one of the ten commandments say “Thou shalt not kill”? I know of course that both the Old and the New Testaments allow for killing under certain very specific conditions, but then again there are many interpretations to that and the Church’s so called “Modern Catechism” states that nothing justifies taking the life of another human being . I am aware that this is an issue that scholars could discuss for days, but I often wonder if people of Christian faith, who so easily subscribe to the notion of blood vengeance and indeed warfare, do actually think of the profound ethical dilemmas involved…And again, this has nothing to do with being or not being “liberal”…just a question of intellectual diversity, nothing else.
Now you go on to list some examples of rioting and looting after specific incidents. What does that have to do with me wondering if the US judicial system is biased or not and weather you would find any white individual in court wishing (theoretically of course) to be black for a more favorable judicial procedure??? I am sure that a black person will have hundreds if not thousands of examples describing indiscriminate racially motivated violence against the black community if you go back to the 30s and 40s or indeed the 50s and 60s. And don’t tell me now that that’s history and that these were different times when at the same time you mention Pearl Harbor and the dropping of the atomic bombs on Japan! That doesn’t make any sense now, does it…
As for your conception regarding the state of public welfare in the US, I get the distinct feeling that –although I live on the other side of the Atlantic- I know more about the hard facts on the ground than yourself. This example of the woman getting 5000 dollars of benefits is obviously the one-in-a-million-example that populist biased “opinionators” complacently feed each other. A staggering 50 million people in the US are without medical insurance and what is even more dramatic, is that 47 million live below the poverty line – 20 million of these in extreme poverty (“extreme poverty” being defined as a family of four living with 10.000 dollars or less a year)…tendency rising. I personally would find that highly disturbing if I were living in the US, the country which is generally referred to as being the “richest country in the world”. And obviously I am never so naive to rely on the media to make up my own opinion, as you suggest. These are numbers recently published by your very OWN United States Census Bureau! A very comprehensive report, which makes for some interesting reading and is a real eye-opener…As for the practices adopted in some hospitals (I never said it was a general attitude) when it comes to treating or not treating the uninsured (despite the legal provisions that I am well aware of), again its not any media reports that I rely on, but I have a childhood friend who happens to be the assistant director of one of the biggest metropolitan hospitals in one of the biggest US cities and I believe that I can somewhat rely on his descriptions regarding the realities on the ground…
And finally, allow me to spend a few words about your perceptions regarding the oil industry, which again is totally inaccurate and in some sense even amusing. The US is by far NOT the country with the biggest oil reserves! If you look at the list of the countries with the biggest oil reserves, you will find that the US possesses about 1.74% of the world’s oil reserves (that’s ONE point seventy four). Didn’t you know that the US imports about 50% of its needed oil from other countries to keep things running (including the military machinery that you mention). Another interesting aspect looking at the list of worldwide oil reserves: Iraq has the fourth largest reserves in the world…about 600% more than the US. Doesn’t that get you wondering about certain things that I mentioned above at all?? Now on the other hand, maybe you were confusing the statistics a bit, because the US is indeed the biggest CONSUMER of oil in the world. Needless to say that there is a difference like day and night between “having” and “consuming”. Incidentally, that’s another thing where we here in Europe point our fingers over the Atlantic. The way you waste the objectively limited energy resources (I mean, it may be in 20, in 50 or in a 100 years from now, but its mathematically sure that oil will some day not exist anymore) with your gas gobbling cars as if there were no tomorrow is something totally incomprehensible over here and –from a global perspective- considered utterly selfish. Fortunately we here in the past years have come to realize that the world’s resources are scarce and that you better start saving them. More and more countries are starting to tax cars based on their environmental impact and if you want to drive a big gas gobbling suv, van or something like that, you are going to bleed for your “sins”. Its not surprising, however that people are not particularly thrilled with the fact of saving the resources so that others can happily go on and waste them…Your understanding of the US having the cheapest gas prices in the world is also not accurate btw. They are certainly cheaper than in Europe, that’s for sure, but there are many countries –like in the ones with the really huge oil reserves- where prices are much lower (gasoline in some places is actually cheaper than water).
Anyhow, now you had me writing this infinite monologue instead of looking at the hot women in here, which is truly a shame in itself. But to get back to my initial point and to what the previous commentator hinted…you don’t need to live in the US in order to realize that you can’t just reduce the “dysfunctions” of a society to “black and white” (and I mean that in a figurative and less in a racial sense). Here in Europe you have very similar conceptions towards identical groups of society…be it the Moroccans, the Albanians, the gypsies, the Turks, you name it…with the same superficial, intellectually shallow and distorted attitudes. I also want to stress that I have nothing whatsoever against your people and your great country in general. I have plenty of American friends and -despite quite a bit of resentment in some parts of the old continent- I consider Americans to be very friendly, hospitable and easy going and I find lots of things in your country to be a shining example for others, but what is foul is foul...in any country!
The same thing happen to my nephew in 1982....Yes this is very sad !!!.
Nope, I have been in 9 different countries. I am in the judicial profession and get reports on crime and such from all over the world.
I see what happens here without liberal media slants and I read how crime is in other countries. If you search the internet, you will find government stats posted from any country you chose.
History lets us learn what worked and what did not. It is a shame you do not study it more.
Have a nice day in your dream world.